As the world gets ready for a force it cant resist ...im thinking in terms of what will happen after that force has swept through the continents and faded.
If eddie is going to be mayor of london (yes) mp (no) how will he effect the change . London is 32 boroughs(towns with their own ersonality and needs ) under an umbrella of capital city terms and will take a long term plan to win over. #
What do you as izzardites think he should do to effect the change from comedian to head of london,...
and will you still be logging on here to celebrate the mayor of london ...what qualities has eddie got that would be good/bad for the job what will he love/hate do you think
YES ITS A HEATED DEBATE ......get replying folks...and be part of the future of this wonderfully talented person we all love xxx
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 moiraxxx |
Subject: the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 31 Jan 2013 - 16:39 GMT |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 31 Jan 2013 - 17:24 GMT I'll be thinking about this and respond later. Meanwhile, Moira, Huggggggs!
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 31 Jan 2013 - 18:43 GMT Quote from 'moiraxxx' Wow that's one heck of a post, Moriaxxx and by the way, it's so good to "see" you! I agree with Gran, I'll have to think about it, quite a lot to take in. |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 01 Feb 2013 - 05:45 GMT Hugggsss ((((Moira)))) I just spent a half hour typing then lost the post because I wasn't logged in (Merd)
So here's the abbreviated version: I think he'd make a good Mayor because... On the plus side: He knows how to LISTEN to people and consider other opinions while not being afraid of expressing his own. He's not prejudiced, loves humans and is inclusive of diversity He's a pragmatic humanist, problem solving unclouded by religious ideas. His sense of humor can de-stress very stressful situations Accountancy can prove handy in understanding the economics of running the city(with a lot of helpful full time economists on hand of course) He's a very likable guy, which goes far when your trying to win a campaign or form a coalition once you do win and need to bring the diverse population together for the greater good! On the negative side He's impulsive and would need to curb that a bit to keep himself from running off the rails! Besides, if California survived having Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor, I think London could do a lot worse than having Eddie for Mayor! Go Eddie!!!!!! |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 01 Feb 2013 - 12:40 GMT hiya there great to see you...your list is smashing and i agree with it but ..yeah i think the hardest thing might be, things that CANT be done! When running your own show and financing it it is a huge responsibility ,but you are in charge and things happen when you want them to or are corrected by your response ,
SO its easy maybe to locate something that needs changing but , In all honesty, there are wheels within wheels in these set roles ( that are set in stone or practice )x 32 boroughs all ticking at a different speed,hehehe and you cant just go in and say drop that .So it might be hard to realise that whilst something seems straight forward it has to stay undone, He would be a great ambassador wouldnt he for us . and people do love him as was shown when he gave a medal at the olympics . would love to hear more but maybe people dont know how they feel , thank you for responding, |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 01 Feb 2013 - 21:01 GMT I'm afraid Eddie missed Ken Livingstone's campaign manager, Tessa Jowell, give a speech at the Labour conference (in 2011, I think) . In it, she attacked Boris Johnson, accusing him of being an entertainer and a comedian, rather than a real, serious politician; in fact, she didn't mention Boris for the first few minutes, and it sounded more like a full-blooded attack on Eddie's ambitions. I was shocked, and looked around for Eddie's reaction, only to realise he wasn't there. I'm sure - I've been a politics nerd for more than 30 years, and have become very good at 'reading the runes' - that the attack was deliberately double-edged. Anyone standing against Eddie now has a ready-made campaign to use against him, provided by Eddie's own party. And that party has to approve his candidacy, before he can even run. Whatever Eddie believes, whatever the rights or wrongs of his ideas, the Labour Party is simply stringing him along, using him as a cash-cow. I wish he'd do something else with his unique talents; politics is not the right path for him.
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 01 Feb 2013 - 23:27 GMT There's a YouTube video of him talking at a Brunel Labour students meeting where he goes out of his way to bring Boris Johnson's supposed illegitimate children into a conversation about the mayoral race. Personally, I found it repugnant and completely out of line.
That and calling Tories "dementors from Azkhaban" during the AV campaign would put me off of voting for him completely. There's a difference between arguing policy (which he also does badly, IMHO) and personal insults. |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 02 Feb 2013 - 10:29 GMT Quote from 'spaceface' this is very interesting spaceface.Im sure this will be said about him!! as polititians are engaged in punch and judy mostly, rather than qualities and policies.Im a new member of the labour party so your experience is of great interest and im still finding out what i think of it all , , Being a bit sceptical i do worry that what you are saying is correct and of course add to your concern the fact that people love him and are drawn to him, which will reflect well on the party,He really cares so i hope you are wrong,however he is determined to make a difference, he says, so maybe eyes wide open he is going to have a go , He will have my interest and if he has the policies my vote .Thank you for this interesting response xxx moiraxxx |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 02 Feb 2013 - 10:33 GMT Quote from 'Nuisance Puppy' really nuisance puppy..i will have to look out for that ,I agree with you a fine line is to be walked. It would be very hard to see eddie go that road.I have an image of him talking about positive things and energy .comments like this help to see what is thought about the whole thing so thank you for posting this xxx |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 02 Feb 2013 - 19:45 GMT I've seen most of Eddie's campaigning, and he is very poor at arguing policy - he simply parrots the party line, and if pressed is unable to go into issues in any depth - he quickly descends into silliness, and, yes, insulting ravings. He played a big role in losing the AV vote, as much by accusing opponents of being too stupid to understand the issue as by simply saying we should change our voting system because 'it was time for a change'! As I've already said, politics is not his path. The party will not choose Eddie as its candidate for Mayor of London when it has excellent, erudite people like David Lammy available. He was out in the community immediately after the London riots, worked hard to calm the situation, and later wrote a well-received book on the causes at the root of the unrest, and possible solutions. Eddie didn't so much as tweet - no one knew if he was even in London at the time. A few party dinners, donations and soapbox speeches don't make up for the many years of community work it takes to build up a real understanding of the issues. Look out for the party conferences, if you want to see where Eddie stands in the rankings. Where once he was 'front and centre' with the party VIPs, and had a 'starring' role, hosting Q&A sessions with the leader, he's now at the end of the row, barely visible - he's literally being 'edged out'. When will he notice?
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 03 Feb 2013 - 00:39 GMT Quote from 'spaceface' well you are clearly passionate about the subject and have great clarity in your writing. Thank you for answering and taking time to respond to my reply which was not very learned.Im new to the party and still working out how it works and what it means . I am not so blessed with clear writing but would just make a few comments ,if i may. The path of politics is and should be the choice of everyone to make for themselves and he should be able to apply and take his chance.ifhe can and wishes to do so the result will be up to the party then . You have said the party wont vote him in...so theres the answer it would seem, although in seven years nothing stays the same and thoughts may well be radically altered by 2020 which is the date eddie has offered as a possible application.There again I would hope that if he is a non starter someone would have taken him to one side and told him. as it is seven years away there is also for him to learn more about presenting policies and getting his point across . i dont doubt that the candidate you mention is wonderful ....and that being the case stands a good chance then of winning, and i wish him every success, As a community worker i know the value of being there when things go wrong so i agree with you it is important to get stuck in..not make comment from afar as boris did . The AV vote in my community was lost because people didnt understand it and wouldnt vote ..to be honest i was struggling myself. Is it a bit personal to single eddie out and blame him when others were involved who are in politics? im not sure !! You clearly care a great deal and are prepared to say so which is great at a time when so many people are so apathetic and wont stand up for anything . Now thats where you both agree .eddie cares as well and he too will stand up and say so thank you again and apologies my party L plates are showing so clearly |
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Subject: Re:the changeover ...how will it be Posted: 03 Feb 2013 - 02:00 GMT Quote from 'moiraxxx' I simply wished to point out that since Eddie was the 'face' of the AV campaign, he bore much of the responsibility for getting the message across - and made a particularly bad job of it - his 'debate' with Lord Winston was especially embarrassing. Eddie chose to head the campaign, and as an accomplished public speaker should have done better than to call people stupid just because they disagreed with him! (Many of us who were against AV had considered long and hard before coming to our conclusions.) My comments are intended as political criticism, not an attack on Eddie himself. He's great comedian, and I'm sure, a lovely person - but I hope that, as you say, someone takes him to one side and tells him the truth. It isn't fair that the party continues to string him along, simply for his money. I hope, too, that he isn't too stubborn to listen, and finds a face-saving way out of this situation. We all want Eddie to do well and be happy, but this isn't the way for him to do that. As for David Lammy - look him up! You'll be impressed, I'm sure. Other 'names in the frame' include Oona King, John Cruddas and Sadiq Khan. Have fun discovering the wealth of great talent we have to draw on! |
